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My personal “Moving to Canada” experience

Filed under: Think Mauritius — Patrick Ng at 5:18 am on Saturday, December 8, 2007

In asking me to write about my own personal emigration to Canada experience, Noor, one of Think Mauritius’ readers made me realise that all my previous posts about Immigration Canada look more like chapters of Moving to Canada for Dummies guide: what one should expect, do and not do once they are in Canada. And although all my posts are based on my own experience, up to now, I have never actually talked about it. So here it is. Enjoy, or at least try (smile).

After I finished my secondary education in 1995, I enrolled in the BTS Informatique de Gestion programme at the Mauritius Chamber of Commerce and Industry Centre for Business Studies (MCCI), not because I wanted to become a programmer, but because my parents did not have the means to send me abroad for further studies. There, I met Eddy Young (http://priscimon.com/blog), one of the two guys behind the creation of this blog. The other one being Stéphane Lee (www.stephanelee.com).

Anyway, after I graduated in 1998, I got a job at CIFOD (French Embassy), but decided to move six months later, not because the pay was not good, but rather because I felt I was not learning enough new things at an early and crucial stage of my career. So, I resigned from CIFOD, and took a job as a programmer at Overseas Software Development (OSD), a French offshore software development company. There, I learned about Visual Basic, SQL, and Crystal Reports–all of which would turn out to be very helpful later in Canada. Work experience is priceless! Remember this. However, two years later…surprise, I again felt the need to move and learn new things, and decided to apply for permanent residency in Canada.

Applying for permanent residency was an exciting experience, and I was really looking forward for my permanent resident visa. Yet, when the visa finally arrived, I was brought back to reality and started to ask myself a lot questions, essentially thinking if it was a wise decision after all–you, too, will be asking yourselves these same questions. Nevertheless, I stuck to my plan because I already spent too much money and invested too much of my time to not at least give it a try.

So, on June 5th, 2001, I landed in Toronto with one goal in mind: find a full-time job as soon as possible so that my fiancée could join me. I did find it two months later as a bilingual technical support person at a manufacturing company. Now, even though going from a programmer to a support technician did not seem as a career advancement at first, I did learn many new things, and was glad I did. I learned the tips and tricks of Windows, and various other pieces of software. I learned to keep my calm even when frustrated, angry, or in the line of fire, and most of all, “troubleshooting techniques” which can be very helpful in various situations in life.

However, although a job can keep you busy, it cannot indefinitely keep homesickness at bay. Eventually, I started to feel home sick, so home sick that I flew to Mauritius for one week just six months after my arrival in Canada. In fact, until my, now wife joined me in February 2003, each year I flew to Mauritius to avoid depression. From my own experience, I think those of you who are moving to Canada as couple or a family will feel less home sick because you’ll have each other. There will be more mouths to feed, but you’ll have more moral support to handle the difficult situation. Its good to have relatives in Canada, but it’s just not the same.

As you would expect, these flights to Mauritius together with the various goods I had to buy at the beginning were not kind to my bank account balance, which was still in its infant stage. Bed, mattress, microwave oven, vacuum cleaner and other goods cost a lot of money, but had to be bought, unless I wanted to sleep on the floor or live in dirty apartment.

Luckily, like I said before, with some hard work and perseverance, things tend to get better with time. Little by little, through wise spending, we started to increase our bank account balance. Of course, from time to time, we went out for dinner or to the movie theatre. Things got even better when my now wife got a part-time job. In the meantime, I have also started working towards a BA French Studies part time. And my employer is paying for my tuition fees, is not this cool?

So there you have it…my personal “Moving to Canada” experience. If you’ve read all my previous posts on Think Mauritius, you’ll notice that what I wrote there and what I wrote here are not very different. What I wanted to say is that at the beginning, life will be tough, unless you come here with tons of money. But I think it’s safe to say that those who have tons of money usually don’t leave Mauritius. However, if those before me and I were able to make it, then you should be able to make it too. Mauritians (and most immigrants for that matter) have a very good quality: we are all hard workers. So, whenever you’re facing hardship, remember that you’re not alone, and think of it as a right of passage.

15 Comments »

Comment by Noor

8 December 2007 @ 7:00 pm

Hy Pat
Thx very much again in accepting to relate your personal experience.
Your humble few words shows what kind of person you are ( even if we dont know each other personally, though definitely i would like to )and if today you are starting to reap rewards for your efforts, its all what you dearly deserve..Im really glad that your lifes there getting easier for you.. Your experience is clearly the best example that people going to canada should imperatively have the will to strive and survive cause success will definitely come with time..But patience is the key

I would also like to thank you for all the advice youve given to us , so far its been extremely helpful.Just keep it up man..

As always
Noor

NB: While reading your background, i can see myself.. Same like you , not from a rich family and had always worked hard to get what i need. And the main reason for me to apply for immigration is definitely alike : THE NEED TO MOVE ON AND LEARN NEW THINGS

Comment by Patrick Ng

8 December 2007 @ 7:16 pm

Hi Noor,

Thank you for the kind words.

The most important advice I’ve been trying to give to all those coming to Canada is: Give yourself time. It will take time before you get your first car, your first house, etc. A good analogy to explain what I am trying to say is: “A newly planted coconut tree will take years before producing coconuts.”

Comment by Noor

9 December 2007 @ 6:34 am

Hy pat

yes this is a good example but in mtius people can work this problemaround.. :-)
“Si ou papa ministre, li pou aste ene pied coco avec so coco li pou mete divant so la porte!”

Comment by Vijay

11 December 2007 @ 5:53 am

Hi Patrick and Noor,

I really appreciate your comments buddies.The experience of Patrick is indeed a very rich in events that i found myself in the same boat as you guys.

Anyway keep it up buddies.

And keep in touch.

Bye for now.

Vijay

Comment by Hassen

3 March 2008 @ 2:02 pm

Hi Patrick, Vijay, Noor, Dodo and others

I am Hassen . I have found this blog very useful.Things i have read here gave me “the big picture”of canada and the canadian life. Actually,am planning to move to canada with my fiancee. I have graduated in computer science and am actually working in software development company. My fiancee is working as an education officer in a private secondary school. She graduated in Physics.I have contacted SAJ Int for the immigration purposes, since we didnt know where to start, who to contact. Some friends advised us to go there. We have appiled under the Quebec Programme as the waiting time is supposed to be much less. But even that the people at SAJ, told us that it’l take us around 2 years to get our PR!!
The first and big question is for me the Job sector. Will we both able to make it?? I mean me ,and my fiancee are from different “working backgrounds”. will one of us have to sacrifice his job prospect in his/her field??And which one has more prospect.I mean we can both work in any small jobs at the beginning but will we be able to make it??
Also upon landing in Quebec, is it true that we can go easily to other provinces??

N on a more personal note, since I come from Port-Louis, where everybody knows its always hot, I fear a lot about the canadian winter!! Will I be able to survive the winter :-)

I thank you all. I will in contact more often now that am on the “road to canada”. Cheers and Bye

Comment by Noor

4 March 2008 @ 6:18 am

Hy Hassen
So its great to hear that the group of mauritians leaving for canada is increasing.

- Concerning time elapse for PR: Normally the application to the Federal Govt used to be faster, but since last year, the govt of quebec has decided to increase its entry per annum. So this is why the waiting time for the interview has decreased from an average of 2 years to one year. So, you should start counting as soon as you get your file number. Its not when you apply that counts. Then expect around 14-15 months before getting an interview. And if your lucky enough, you may even get the CSQ directly without any interview. Then you shall be left with the medicals and it will take another year to get your visa.

- Concerning jobs : You should tune your mindset that its gonna be hard the first few YEARS. And believe me, in 90% of all cases, its gonna be TRUE!So donot expect you will get your job straightaway. Be open, donot restrict yourself to what you did here in Mtius. Its not because you are a software developer, you can’t make your way to other fields of IT and why not in another career. Opportunities will come, but you need to be open minded and patient.At first You must take whatever you get.Its not just merely saying that, you need to be psychologically ready to do it NOW not LATER. One way you could test your determination is put yourself in a situation that in mtius itself for some reason or other, you had to leave your comfortable job of software developer and work at for eg. Mc Donalds. How you feel?? …If you cant do that, expect your life to be really tough. Of course if your lucky you can get your job straightaway, but what if not?? Always prepare for the worse. Thats my advice. And about your wife’s career, search on the web for how they employ teachers there. Each province have their own procedures. Be sure you read about it and see how she fits in. I dont want to make you afraid, but ive known teachers with 20 years of experience here in Mtius, have never got their job as Teacher again in Canada. AT midcareer level, you will always have that difficulty. But if im not mistaken, you’re a young couple. You have more time and courage.So the trick to get the job, is that you need not focus on your experience here, but rather find out what the procedure and qualifications needed in canada to work as a teacher. Then you work through that, study if need be and in a few years you shall succeed.

- Climate : Its not that because you come from port louis that you will find it harder to adapt to the low temperatures. In general, we all as Mtians will face the same difficulty cause we have a tropical climate here. Read about patrick’s advice about how to face the winter, it will definitely help.

Other provinces : Yea once landed you can move to other provinces. But its not advisable to leave Quebec without having got any ID cards and all required papers. Just imagine you have lost your passports and you dont have any other ID with you?? hehehe.. So be sure why you are leaving Quebec. If you have family waiting for you in other provinces, then its good moving. But if its just a mere choice, i would advise you to stay a few months in Quebec. It will help you get your papers and also lodging is cheaper.

So in general what you need is a really strong determination. You need to build that up. That applies to your wife too. Its gonna be a tough time, but be patient. As a couple, you should be ready to assist each other. Its not going to be a White paradise, but definitely on a long projection, its gonna be much better that the SUN , SEA , SAND ( and the newcomer SEX ) logo of mauritius.

As always
Noor

Comment by Hassen

10 March 2008 @ 2:37 pm

Hi Noor

Thanks for your valuable advices. We are at the baby stage of our”demarche”here. We’ve still got so

much to do, that we don’t no where to start. Certificates to “certify”. The first little humps, that

we have to go through is the afidavit that we’l have to make. Since me and my Fiancee are not yet

married, and as such not living together, we’ll have many things to do, to prove and so on.. So and

so papers to show.. etc. It’s areal casse-tete, i Tell you and we are even thinking thats it should

have been better that we got married, before we had applied for immigration tp canada.But

unfortunately, due to some family constraints , we wont be able to do it.
Do you think that not being married , but already a couple, can be a thing that can make the

canadian people reject our dossier?? It’s a little thing that i Fear may arise……

Concerning the jobs.. It’s a harsh reality that we both shoud accept.. Before getting this cosy job

as you say, i have had to really strive.. Not much but for 5months. Even being a graduate, without

experience , the only jobs that were offered to me at that time, were those as Call Center Agents,

etc..It paid well,but i accepted to be salesperson in the IT Dept in a well-known retailing company

here in Mauritius. It paid less that Rs 6000 at that time,working 7 days out of 7!! and during the

peak season 12 to 14hours of work!!! But the job allowed me to get valuable experience in many

things.
Now that I have this job, of 40 hrs per week, i can look back and think on all the hardships gone

through. And I am ready, to go through all the hardships again working odd hours,etc..
I know its more easily said than done, but everyday I am trying and doing the maximum I can to

prepare myself to this harsh reality..

The most important reason why we both decide to move to canada, is because we are thinking for the

future. I mean we both had to strive a lot before we got our first job after graduating. Its not

easy to get a job even if you’ve got a degree back here in Mauritius, at the beginning of your

professional career at least.
Nowadays, Unless you have contacts here, you wont get that “secured government” job. People with

less good results can step up on you and your chance for even an interview just because they know

this or that “deputee” or minister!!
It’s still the case now in Mauritius, and i seriously doubt this “mentality” would ever change. Its

the politicians themselves who have implemented this system.
To put it in their language to “protect their people”.
But luckily there is still the private sector where you can get a good decent job.
Even that with life getting more and more expensive everyday here the amount of money you get,

example Rs 15-22 k is not enough to take a leap in life.
I mean to actually buy a plot of land and build a house on it is almost like binding yourself

indefinitely to the Bank. Building costs are now very very high in mauritius. Cement , iron bars

prices have sky rocketed!! you can almost say when you are building a house: Rs 800-1000 per square

feet, depending if you are someone who is very “debrouillard” in terms of saving on this or that.
Loans interest are around 12.75 % on home loans , on personal ones almost 16-17%!!!
We must be ready to pay Rs 5000-8000 per month for certain loans for several years if we want to

take the risk.

I mean life is not heaven in Canada also but is it much easier as its back here in Mauritius?? What

are the views of people who have just moved to canada.. What is it to gain coming to canada?? To

lose is the family and friends that we’l not be able to see and meet

Both me and my fiancee are starting life now.I mean professionally. We both have 2+ years of working

experience now.I know that if we both strive here after 4-5years (but i expect much more) , we can

live decently. But we’ve decided to start that life coming to canada.. Is it a good decision..??

Changing a country and life?? And starting again a new grounds??? Are there more things to be lost

than to be gained??

Thank you
Hassen

Comment by Hassen

10 March 2008 @ 2:43 pm

Hi all,

Just a little note. Yesterday I was watching the usual “Journal Televisee”, and i saw that through the “Empowerment Programme”, the Mauritian government are sending 100-200 people to Edmonton to work in place to slauthering poultry and all that. For those who dont know the Empowerment Programme is like something set up by the Government to help people.As they say..
Anyways, i Just wanted to know, are these people really going to make it there. Or they going to like enslaved in those and be ‘a la merci’ of the employers there??

Cheers

Hassen

Comment by Dodo

10 March 2008 @ 4:42 pm

Hassen,

Don’t know your families’ constraints wrt the wedding but will it be appropriate to have a civil ceremony just for your papers. Mind you, in quebec the wife keeps her maiden name and most Quebecers are not even married ( they live as common law partners) but I don’t know how much this will impact your application (s).

Don’t know about the Empowerment program but i can assure that there is a big difference coming here as an Immigrant versus a “guest worker”. You won’t have the same rights because somewhere in that program there is a middleman who will be making more money than the salary you will be bringing home. At one point , the Alberta govt allowed some companies to bring in some Fijians to work as cooks. Poor fellows though that they will be working as assistant chef in 3/4/5 stars hotels - they end up working in the fast food industry like MacD and whoever the agent who brought them were charging them money for their airplane tickets and rent ( more than what an ordinary chap coming to settle would have paid)

Comment by Patrick Ng

11 March 2008 @ 12:26 am

Hi Hassen,

Like Dodo said, it would have been better if you could have the legal document. But it seems that you already applied. True, there are a lot of unmarried couples in Canada living together as common-law partners. However, unlike them, you have not been living together. I may be wrong, but I don’t think anything prevents you from having your legal wedding in Mauritius, and then let immigration Canada know that your status has changed. You’ll have to check on http://www.cic.gc.ca. The problem with immigration laws is that they keep changing. Things have changed a lot since I applied for permanent residency.

Good Luck.

Patrick Ng

Comment by Vijay

13 March 2008 @ 2:35 pm

Dear Hassen,

Ive been reading through all that you have written and must tell you whatever advices Noor, Dodo and Patrick have given you are true. Even i will say the same thing to you.
Concerning the fact that you have a fiancee, as patrick told me before there use to be a legal immigration way to bring in your fiancee, but this have changed now UNFORTUNATELY for you and all of us.
Well, i assumed that you must be doing the common law application for your fiancee. Right? And you have to do an affidavit before the supreme court that you and your fiancee have been living common law for at least 1 year. Well this is the only way to bring her in without having to get married religiously and civil.
One advice i would give you, at anytime the immigration authorities may ask you about proof that you both have been living as common law for such period of time. I think SAJ must have told you both to open a joint account, but this is not sufficient at all. I advise you both to buy things with receipts having both of your names on it, it may be valuable things or small things, just to show that you both are living together and sharing the expenses and doing things in common. Its a friend experience im sharing with you so take it as an advice ans ask SAJ they will tell you the same things but dont wait when the immigration authorities are asking for proof to do it. Hope i made this point clear to you. Its gonna help you.

If it doesnt work then im sorry to tell you that both of you have to get married civil law so that your application goes further.

Concerning weather, the province of British Columbia have the best winters of all Canada, but cost of living is high but you can both manage if you are working. Its always +5 degrees most of the winter days in Winter BUT BUT BUT it rains like hell, the sky may be cloudy for 1 week and it may rain for like 5 to 10 days in a row. But i did manage to get through this, i have lived there for 6 months and got through the whole winter. It does snow but only thrice a winter season and the rain washes out all the snow in a few days.

Im myself living in the province of Quebec in MOntreal for the past 1 year. I just came back from mauritius 2 weeks ago after 5 and a half months there. Im planning to move from this province very soon to settle in alberta or British columbia.

Well i wish you both good luck in your application and hope everything goes alright for both of you by the grace of god.

Take care and bye for now

Vijay
MONTREAL

Comment by Alvin

9 May 2008 @ 3:22 pm

Hi There
Any advice on someone thinking of immigrating to Mauritius? I am a South African who is attracted to living in a warm, coastal, mixed race community with low crime and I have heard that Mauritius is the place!
So how about it? A pro’s and con’s of immigrating to Mauritius???? An insiders views for a total outsider.

Comment by Noor

21 May 2008 @ 10:48 am

Hy alvin

I will not tell u much cause i dont the way of getting into mtius.. But what i can tell is that thousands of people are leaving the country.. so think well..

As always
Noor

Comment by Zabeen

28 June 2008 @ 12:51 pm

Hi Patrick,

Thanks a lot for your advice. I also did a BTS Informatique de Gestion at the MCCI some 8 years ago. I would like to know if employers over there recognise the BTS and if I will be able to secure a good job or will I need to continue my studies?

Thanks
Zabeen

Comment by Milan

4 August 2008 @ 7:20 pm

hey , i stumbled on this site while searching infos on how to move to canada , …thank to Pat , this really helps to share your experience!

, and to everyone who contribute to it.i am still s student at UOM and as many fellow here , we tend to have the grass-better-on-the-other-side syndrome..I wanted to move to canada after my undergraduate studies here, and wanted to know , if its easier to get a job and settle there after i complete a post graduate (MSc) course over there?Would it help get into the system quicker? (… but i know the initial years , specially during the studies and all these will be real difficult.)…could anyone share some ideas?
Keep it up guy!it really helps!

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